|I think season passes are
high enough this year for all families, seniors, etc.
|If the YMCA builds their
own pool this would help the overcrowding due to Y camp
at Welch. It also would allow more pool time at the indoor
pools since the Y team would be practicing at their own
pool. If that happened we MAY not need additional facilities.
I ranked option 2 last only because I don't believe we
need a private enterprise. But I DO think Park Forest needs
a slide! On my wish list would be an outdoor 50 meter pool
(If we had money to burn).
|Although a new pool would
be great, an entrance fee of $5 per person would be difficult
to many of your current patrons.
|One of the BEST things about
State College is their community pools. I have lived elsewhere
and have never had the opportunities like here regarding
pools. Thank you! We also support the swim teams and think
they are a wonderful opportunity! THANK YOU
|We moved here from Colorado
and they have some of the nicest Recreation Centers imaginable.
They are all public and combine weights, gym with indoor/outdoor
pool. Our favorite was the Lafayette Rec Center which had
a lap pool, giant slide, floating inner tube current pool,
and a water area that had a waterfall. 2 small slides current
area, bubble area, and umbrella all from 2 inches to 4
feet deep. It cost $2 per visit to use the pool. You should
really look into it. 303.665.0469 Lafayette, Colorado Bob
L. Burger Recreation Center http://www.cityoflafayette.com/parks/center/index.html
|I am disappointed that P & R
has instituted a "user's" fee for parents/sitters/resp.
adults who wish to be with their child or charge - but
do not swim. It seems this practice has eliminated the
number of adults willing to remain at the pool with their
child and has added babysitting responsibilities to the
lifeguards. If you want safe pools and supervised children
(aka safe children) - then don't eliminate individuals
who are willing to be present at a time in our history
that parents think "drop-offs" are supervision.
|The factors which limit my
family's pool use are: the water temperature (for me),
having to wear sunscreen (for my kids), and having a child
who must be accompanied by an adult in the pool. My son
LOVES the waterslide. He also enjoyed Park Forest Pool
as a part of CRPR camps. Science Park pool gets many members
because they know they will run into friends there, whereas
this is not so common an experience at the public pools.
I, however, support public pools. And the cost of Science
Park membership is significantly greater than a set of
pool passes. I would like more public group swimming lessons
- those at the high school pool are hard to get into, and
during the school year they interrupt the dinner hour twice
a week. This is difficult scheduling for small children.
My older child would MUCH prefer a group lesson to our
current private lessons, but with a 2nd child
at a different level (who got wait-listed too many times)
the scheduling and hassle are prohibitive.
|Social activities? Organized
water games for the kids - something in between a meet
and a free swim - also - having the competitive swimmer
swim dates in the day.
|I didn't go to the pool in
1999 because my son was an infant. Now we go several times
per week when we are in town. Though I wouldn't be willing
to pay more than $3 per day for any of the aquatic improvement
proposals, I would be willing to pay more for the season
pass. $50-$75 depending on the improvements that were implemented.
|The pools are nice - they
just need to be enhanced. Snack bar is #1 on my list.
|Parents observing children
while they swim should not be
charged admission. You're making your guards' job harder.
|I, and a few others I know,
use the pools all day. How about ½ day (evening)
|We need more shade at the
pools. We think the swim lessons for kids are great and
great price, but there is too much pressure to drive into
town and drop off the form the day the forms come out in
the paper. Any time I used another option, my child did
not get into the class. I think taxpayer $ should go towards swimming facilities
(pools & lessons) rather than water park facilities.
|Please don't spoil Park Forest's
beautiful setting by covering it!
| Landscaping around
the Park Forest Pool could be better.
|Thanks to all your staff & their
dedication to our children!
|Daycare overwhelms the pools
in the early afternoon.
| Please don't
put a waterslide at Park Forest - it will turn it into
a hang-out for teenagers like Welch and make it much less
enjoyable for young kids and their parents. Good luck -
thanks for trying. More swim classes would be great!!!
|I would appreciate a better
registration system. For example: this spring, 2 of my
children were in swim lessons, levels 1& 3 respectively.
The summer schedule book came out prior to the completion
of their classes - I wanted to sign them up for summer
classes yet did not know how they would do in their current
class. They both got an incomplete in their levels but
by the time I got this info - registration had already
begun for the summer classes @ the end of July. Also, in
the past, I have dropped off my registration @ the Fraser
St office on a Sunday morning (right after the booklet
came out) but still my child did not get into a class w/
six openings. Depending on how the envelopes are removed
from the pile - I could have been on the top, or bottom.
There should be a fairer system. (Sorry, not sure what
that should be!)
|CRPR needs to add a few more
swimming lessons. The class size is usually great. The
instructors have been wonderful, I love them...if my child
is lucky enough to get into a class. This occurs mostly
in the winter months.
|I think a waterpark with
slides & activities would be wonderful for families
(We visited one @ a YMCA in Charlotte, NC. They charged
$5/person per day for guests of members.) The liability
would also be reduced as there are no diving boards.
|Raise the annual fees by
about 50% & then do the best you can with the current
facilities. e.g. water above 80 degrees at all times -
more evening swims - etc. Thanks
|I disagree charging non-swimmers
admission fee to come & watch their children. Would
you prefer most parents dropping kids off so that we will
be supervising them & liable for the hurt children?
|I believe that the guards
at the pools could 1. Have more control over the crowds
- be less tolerant of splashing, lg. flotation devices & rowdy
adolescents. I believe this would reduce the feeling of
the pool being crowded. 2. Could do a better job of keeping
the pool & pool area clean. The sides of the pool need
a good scrubbing. With regards to both these comments I
have noticed an improvement in the last year but I think
they could do even better.
|Keep water warmer
|This year(2000) there seems
to be a much larger number of daycares, etc. using the
pool ALL afternoon. The pool is overcrowded and supervision
for these children appears to be inadequate. Grandparents
who are visiting and FULLY clothed should not have to pay
to watch their grandkids in the pool. I am also concerned
that requiring adults to pay an entrance fee who
are only observing encourages parents to drop their
children off at the pool and not stay and supervise them.
This only creates a greater number of unsupervised children
at the pool. You should be encouraging parents
to stay & supervise their children not discouraging
them. Many parents do not intend to swim but would stay
|Welch Pool - Girls are rude & play
obnoxious music over the speakers
|For our needs, current facilities
are adequate IF properly maintained. Also, for our needs,
the fee structure is inadequate. My kids prefer to swim
for any hour, then are done. If I take must my own, that's
$9.00 for 1 hour. I am willing to structure my schedule
to come later if the fee would be less. We often come to
the pool at 4:00pm - why not charge ½ price after
3:45pm? AND/OR charge less for kids than adults. Say, $2.00/kid
$3.00/adult. We bought passes - due to cold weather, have
used them once. We will not buy passes again.
|I believe better response
to problems is necessary at CRPR pools. Welch is not supervised
well - especially the baby pool & rules of conduct & age
appropriateness for use of baby pools is not enforced.
More swim evenings in the winter months at indoor pools
at reasonable fees. Too much $ is charged for children's
admissions in winter.
|Determine order for filling
classes, in person gets sooner than mail rec'd 1-2 weeks
prior to deadline!
|I wasn't aware Park Forest
was part of the CRPR pass.
|I'll prefer to pay a monthly
fee for the family all year round. Paying every visit makes
it more expensive and adults who don't swim also have to
|Welch swim team is WAY too
crowded. Need to be able to offer evening swim team practices
as well as day time.
|We need an indoor/outdoor
public pool. In winter, the Friday night swims are crowded.
Few private options. In summer, Welch Pool is packed 1-5
pm. Need larger shallow end since many kids not good swimmers
plus adults. Welch great for groups of youths but need
larger space so little & big kids & teens don't
clash. Need better info source for updates. This cool summer
has been disappointing & we haven't received full value
of passes so buying passes is risky. Therefore, use fee
only is burdensome. Pool facilities do benefit everyone
- keeps youth occupied and off streets, promotes family
time, promotes healthy youth time when supervised. Willing
to pay 40% if third indoor/outdoor pool. Only 10% for water
playground. 0% for shade/picnic.
|I buy a senior-citizen season
pass. This is a genuine bargain and something I can afford.
I have no opinion on any of the above. I would not be involved
in any of them And it would be a sad day for me if I lost
|Generally, we have been pleased
with the aquatics program. We, personally , haven't had
problems, but friends of ours have had serious problems
with the swimming lesson classes. I was told about three
different incidences in which the instructors and lifeguards
missed seeing a near-drowning child during a lesson. In
each case, a parent of adult other than the people who
should be watching saved the child. All incidences were
at the High School Natatorium. As a parent, I will attend
all lessons with my child and not hesitate to interrupt
if I feel that she is in danger. For your program, your
instructors should be more aware of how quickly their students
can flounder. The lifeguards should realized that they
must be an extra pair of eyes & NOT an ornament.
|I would like to have a pool
which shelves gradually deeper, making it possible for
small children to play safely without the aid of flotation
devices, but in the same area as older, more confident
swimmers. As I have live in Australia, where there are
excellent pools, I know this is a possibility, and also
makes trips to the pool with small children far less stressful & more
enjoyable. I'm frustrated by the difficulty of getting
my kids into swimming classes - both the registration method
and the wait listing.
|We buy pool passes for the
summer. If passes were not available, we would not swim
because $3.00 a day for a family of 4 is too expensive
to do on a regular basis.
|We wish there were a season
pass for either parent to use. One of us must go with our
children to the pool, but we don't both want season passes.
Also, we don't think an adult not swimming should have
|I have always purchased a
family membership for the summer because with 4 children,
a daily fee of $3 per day per child(as well as myself and/or
my husband) adds up much too quickly. I would love to see
the prices reduced, but of course I understand the costs
involved with the maintenance, etc. As I indicated by the
ranking, the additions I would most like to see would be
geared toward making the pool a more interesting place
for younger children.
|Interesting survey. However,
it is not the aquatics program that CRPR has difficulty
managing. It is their sports programs & camps. They
are usually understaffed and done "halfway." The
sports programs are not checked on enough for fairness,
etc. Your rules are often inconsistent. For instance; your
outdoor summer boys playoff procedure. It did not meet
normal playoff practices in any way. Your counselors are
not as actively involved as they should be - especially
at the pools. I tend to stay away [from the pools] when
day campers are there. It is too many children at one time
with very little involvement by counselors. Have more get
into the water & interact with students. Have others
standing near pool - not sitting and talking.
|Wave pool/water park is greatly
needed!! Daily fees to the pool already seem steep, but
pass fees are reasonable & the way to go if you plan
on visiting often.
|2 swim classes overcrowds
the adults, when there are only a few spaces for lap swimmers,
and the casual adults swimmers do not have casual area..
Admission fees too high for senior citizens.
|We are not well off (as many
residents are not - especially e.g. graduate student families)
and as a public facility is it wrong to price a significant
portion of the community out of the opportunity to go to
the pool. Where we used to live it was truly a public pool
- $1 per person, children under 5 free. The problem with
the cost is that for a family to visit the pool is $15.
We bought passes for $138 but the weather has not been
great and haven't gone that often.
|The crowding at PF pool has
been tremendous over the years. For improved pool usage,
I recommended public hours after swim lessons begin at
12:00 and go till 9:00pm. Reasons = most young families
with napping toddlers & preschoolers would prefer these
hours around 12:00 because 2:00 is naptime. Moms can come
enjoy 2 hours, go home put kids down for a nap - then come
back after dinner for a few hours with Dads! If you notice
most 5:30 - 7:30 swimmers are Dads & kids - most early
day swimmers are moms & kids! P.S. I managed a large
private facility in the Harrisburg area and they had excellent
programs and attendance.
|We very much enjoy swimming
at the Welch pool. I think the fees for swimming are reasonable.
My children have enjoyed swimming and have learned how
to swim in the past 3 years. I learned to swim at Welch
pool more than 33 years ago.
|Far too expensive for large
families. Anything over $4 is outrageous!
|The pool is fine. Get more
shade, parking. The high school pool has too much chlorine
in it. It's awful. Welch pool - the guards are great. Bug
control. More tables with umbrellas. Snack bar with food.
|Swimming and water safety
far outstrip the importance of water slides and sprinklers.
Please do not spend tax dollars on the frivolity instead
of life-long skills that save lives.
|[Water playground/park] separate
entity my preference. We would still go to Welch Pool a
lot more than wave pool. Wave pool by private group would
be successful but should be separate from public facility
and tax $ (no tax $). Water park in Tipton is close enough
for COG recreational pool area. Unless private wants to
do this, NO TAX $.
|I have a real concern with
pairing with the Y to build another indoor pool. I have
experienced them monopolizing pool space during most convenient
hours for their swim team practice and leaving inadequate
space for rec swimmers and lap swimmers. This really discourages
others using the pool. Pool hours are taken up by swim
teams practicing at after school and evening hours. More
availability of lap swimming times. Availability of pool
space for rec swimming and lap swimming after summer.
|By far, my highest priority
would be to use any extra monies to build an indoor community
|Welch Pool is a great pool.
The crowding doesn't seem to be a problem. One of the cleanest
pools year-in & year-out.
|I am happy to know that options
for improving aquatics programs in our region are being
considered. We attend Park Forest Pool - it is nice but
generally too crowded and hard to manage with children
that cannot stand in the water. The "baby" pool
is so far away and always freezing cold that it may as
well not be there. As a further thought, our side of town
(Patton/even Half Moon Township) could really use YMCA
type facilities. The new Y is beautiful but is pretty far
across town. If a new indoor/outdoor complex (pool) is
built it would be great to also have a gymnasium/fitness
center facility available. In regard to the Park Forest
Pool...maybe graded down to 2ft., then out to 3 ft. - to
enlarge space for those too small for the pool as it is.
|We love the Welch pool & swim
team. The guards are great also. It does get a bit crowded
at times, though. It would be helpful to have an adult
on site at Welch at all times. Spray for bees.
|I have not been able to get
into a program for my 3 year old for two years; he took
lessons at the Athletic club. We do not like the day care
children crowding the pool with very little supervision.
|I would like a family rate
- daily use or season pass to be reasonable not just the
same price - how about a little break for a family. Also,
changes to registration for lessons.
|Recreation and parks are
essential, not optional, for a healthy community. Public
delivery is appropriate.
|My only complaint about the
P.F. Pool is the restrooms. The toilet area is dark, cramped,
|I truly dislike the idea
of a waterpark operated by the Borough!
|I don't like the new policy
at Park Forest Pool requiring everyone to pay an entrance
fee. Sometimes a family member/friend just wants to watch & should
not be required to pay. Sometimes is would be nice to go
swimming in the late morning, but pools are closed due
|Most mother with younger
children whom I know avoid the public pools during the
daytime. There are too many kids so it is scary to have
younger children there who aren't as adept at swimming.
Since area hotels offer pool passes for about the same
price (Hampton Inn is $150 per family for the entire summer),
there are many families going there instead and leaving
the public pools to the day cares.
|Like all sports facilities,
the public pools are really crowded on hot days and in
the month of June before people start going on vacation.
Building a third pool? What's the cost versus adding amenities
to P.F. and Welch? We don't swim in the winter months as
we are skiers, but have never heard any complaints regarding
not being able to swim in the winter. I believe you have
the high school north building open and PSU nat for use.
I'd rather see more lesson times available as we only take
one set as the rest of the summer was full. Your pools
are clean, safe, staff is friendly and courteous and very
reasonably priced. We have bought passes for 8 years. Thank
you. At present it seems that Welch is more crowded than
P.F. pool. Is that due to location or because of the slide
and diving area? I would research this should you decide
to build a third pool.
|I would use the pools more
if there were morning thru early afternoon hours. I can't
justify the cost ($9 for myself & 2 preschoolers) to
go to the pool at noon and then have to leave at 1:00 for
nap time. I bought passes for this summer, but I find I'm
not using them because of this issue.
|Picture taking for passes
should be done earlier than when the pool opens.
|The crowded pool at Welch
really detracts from my enjoyment...as well as the fact
that balls are constantly being tossed around. I've attended
the pool for 10 years, and I think too many toys are being
allowed, especially in light of the crowded conditions.
It would also be nice to have a pool of about 3-4 feet
(or at least a larger portion) for the younger swimmers.
Having a non-swimmer is tough..it's hard for them to practice
swimming. Finally, I had talked with the Y a while ago,
and they said a pool was in their 3-5 year plan. I think
we need at least one more pool now! Instead of considering
per visit fees, I would pay a slightly higher season pass
fee for improved facilities, and you could probably generate
more fees with an all-season pass if facilities were available.
|I love the Welch Pool. It
exceeds my expectations. During adult swim, parents with
tots should not be included. All else is wonderful.
|I would highly appreciate
more facilities for toddlers and younger children who cannot
swim yet (warm baby pool, toys, slides, fountains).
|Based on what I have seen,
I would never turn over the safety of my kids to the lifeguards
on duty@ Park Forest Pool. They are easily distracted by
friends, never smile, and think so highly of themselves.
They should be embarrassed by their behavior and complete
lack of responsibility towards their jobs. There are, of
course, exceptions. The woman who is usually at the front
desk is great! And there are a few lifeguards who are pleasant
|At Welch Pool you are allowed
to drop off your children with no adult supervision at
the age of 6 and older. You cannot leave a child at home
until they are 12. The pool is more dangerous than leaving
them at home. The lifeguards are wonderful but they cannot
do their jobs effectively and be babysitters, too. My oldest
child is 11 and I am at the pool every day with my children.
I think the minimum age for dropping off your children
should be 14. Two weeks ago a 12 year old child was injured
jumping off the diving board and had to be backboarded
and taken to the hospital by ambulance. The lifeguards
did a great job. This child had to go to the hospital by
herself because there was no parent of adult at the pool
|RE: Item #12: Lifeguard staff
is very helpful at Welch Pool - especially with small children
or waterslide and keeping adolescent behavior under control.
Counter staff such as cashiers, appear "bothered" if
asked a questions or for change, etc. If you can't give
change, don't have vending machines. I could never comprehend
their attitudes. I am surprised also that the cashiers
earn more than the lifeguards.
|PF pool is clean, friendly,
just the right size for our 3 year old and infant. It is
crowded in the pm, but we'll come nearer to "family
swim" and we're pleased with the "subdued" atmosphere.
I only wish we could have gotten our 3 year old into lessons
there! They filled up so fast!
|Please keep the season pass
|The Welch Pool is easily
accessible from our home as we live in the "Green
Tree" area. The only problem we've encountered with
CRPR is that we purchased 1 10-day pass which we wanted
to upgrade to an entire summer pass expecting to pay the
$9.00 difference. We were told this was not possible because
it could not be changed in the computer. Otherwise, we
have been satisfied with CRPR.
|One observation I would like
to make, after attending Park Forest Pool for 4 summers,
is that the pool would really benefit from a solar pool
cover being put on each evening. The evenings are so cold
here for most of the summer that the pool heater must work
a lot ( and therefore breaks down a lot). To keep the pool
water warm enough - a cover would not only keep the heat
in at night, but would also give the heater a "break" so
maybe it wouldn't break down so much. With all the big
$ needed for a new pool or covering the whole pool, couldn't
we consider something that wouldn't cost very much and
would pay for itself in the long run in saving on water
heating and repair costs? The community is the public!!
If no tax $ goes to support pools, then we might as well
consider them private and the cost will be too high for
lower income families.
|Build a big hot tub for the
old folks, please.
|I would like to see an improvement
in the bathroom. The toilet area is dark and mostly particularly
at Park Forest and is not kept very clean - improved lighting
and more frequent cleaning of the area. The floor does
not dry and it is often very unpleasant to use the facility.
I feel the sides of the pool should be cleaned. The mold
growing on the side is very unhealthy looking. Is there
any type of vacuuming that occurs? The bottom is often
not very clean as well. The think these steps would make
the pool a much more pleasant place to swim.
|I've been on the waiting
list on several occasions for my now 5 year old son. I
would like to see more preschool, K learn to swim courses
|There are only a few days
when Welch pool is overcrowded - hot, humid days. Perhaps
we could divide the afternoon into 2 sessions - 1 -3:00
and 3-5:00 on those days. I am frustrated when pool closes
at 5:00 for swim competitions, as this is when I usually
swim. I wish we had more shade and a place to sit besides
|1. Parents who are going
to the pool solely to supervise their own children should
not have to pay (no bathing suit on - in shorts/other clothing).
They are helping the lifeguards out by being there. This
was a change this year - it wasn't a problem last year.
2. Offer reduced fee for 1hr. swim pass - it's not fair
to pay $3 for 1-2pm and the same $3 for 1-5pm. Sometimes
you only have an hour you can go - and paying $3 each for
the hour isn't worth it.
|1. We must not price out
low income persons. At $4 per visit plus a few sodas, it
would be $20 for a family of 4 for an afternoon swim. State
parks are free - but 15 miles away. Increased entry fees
would drive up the already expensive day care costs of
those who use the pools. 2. What we need is an indoor/outdoor
aquatics facility with spray/playground features, picnic
area and multipurpose rooms. 3. If most municipalities
can absorb the cost of multimillion dollar municipal buildings,
why couldn't they back a facility that would, at least,
pay part of the expense through user fees?
|[Pools too crowded] especially
from day camp use. Too many unattended swimmers.
|Due to lack of times for
S. High School Nat to give a continuous program summer
to winter, I go to the university pools. I prefer 4 times
per week every week of the year. Senior program at S. High
School does not provide that.
|The staff at Welch is outstanding!
|My children are young(ages
4/6), and just beginning to learn how to swim. Because
of this we have only recently begun to use the outdoor
pools. I think we would have used the pools earlier and
more if there was a much larger shallow section of the
pool(they are too old for the baby pool). Because of the
overcrowding, although the deep end of the pool is not
as crowded but you can barely move in the shallow end,
and the fact that they cannot relax and just have fun in
the water because the water is over their heads, I don't
think the pool experience has been as good as it could
be. The lack of larger shallow section in the indoor pools
has also been a disappointment with regard to swimming
lessons. My very small 4 year old and 5 year old have to
hang off the side of the pool for 30-45 minutes (lesson
sessions). This is very tiring for them and difficult to
do. A new pool should give considerable attention to a
bigger shallow section.
|We appreciate all of the
efforts that CRPR always puts forth to provide adequate,
clean, safe and needed programs/facilities. The staff seems
very dedicated and customer-oriented. Keep up the good
work! Any improvements are greatly appreciated.
|We would really like to see
deck chairs at both pools, some improvements for older
children 8 years and up - and perhaps if feasible expanding
the pools to make them bigger - rather than building a
whole new facility. This might keep the cost down. Is this
|Love the idea of a waterpark
also we need more indoor pool space during the winter -
full-size pools not "hotel pools."
|Some individuals or families
cannot afford to pay for "enhancements." Others
can and would be willing as they were when Welch pool was
developed. We have no idea now about "appropriate
price." It may reflect the skill and ability of the
person or persons in charge. We recall Mr. Guterun who
taught swimming in the Glenland pool before and after Welch
pool was developed. When soliciting funds from PSU faculty
for the original Welch pool some refused to make any contributions
because "it is too cold for an outdoor pool."
|The desk staff are helpful.
The lifeguards are not at Park Forest and are sometimes
mean to the children and are easily distracted.
|My children do not enjoy
the pools because of the crowded conditions. However, increasing
the rates to build a new pool would limit our attendance
just as much.
|1. A waterslide at Park Forest
Pool would be terrible. This is a nice pool facility. Too
small for a slide. If there is a need for a water recreation
park, let a private concern build it, or let people drive
to Tipton like we do.
2. Pools seem less crowded when people in the pool behave in a more restrained
fashion. Lifeguards should curtail the physical horseplay so more people
can enjoy the pool.
|There is no need for water
toys in the pool (i.e. rafts, inner tubes, etc.). Maintain
the current pool and grounds. The purpose of public pool
is for the public to be able to afford admission. Many
children in the area will be denied access if the price
|Change Sr. Citizen age to
60 and above.
|Extend hours open pools earlier
before lunch for families. Don't close the whole pool for
lap swim a few lanes would be sufficient. About 100 people
get out for 5 people to swim. Heat the toddler pool (Park
Forest) so that the toddlers can use it - most days it's
empty because it's so cold. Don't charge children under
5 to get in.
|I would very much like to
see any indoor pool come to the Centre Region. My children,
ages 3 & 1, have passes to the pools this summer. We
mostly attend Park Forest Pool. I have not been able to
get my children into the baby pool due to the cold temp.
The waterfall is intimidating to toddlers. I have only
observed older children playing in the waterfall. I don't
feel it is developmentally appropriate for toddlers.
|Thanks for asking the public
via a representative sample of season pass holders and
Centre Region households. We are both. The SC high school
Nat water seems to have high chemical amounts and/or poor
ventilation. Either way, the pool water environment causes
a sinus reaction. Can someone check to see if a higher
dosage or wrong chemicals are being used? Thanks! Also,
can your CRPR suggest to the proper person or authority
to please consider a representative sampling of the Centre
Region concerning Schlow Library location and other library
aspects. No such survey has been made; only a tallying
of people who picked up a survey form at the library. It
was/is a biased prejudiced survey/results. Thanks for listening.
|Often, there is some little
clap of thunder, and then I can't swim laps at the only
possible time for me, 5-5:30. If you build another pool
it should have some space for lap swimming all the time.
All I want is soap in the men's shower!
|I go to swim ½ hr.
when time allows. I would not have any need or desire for
|My only complaint with CRPR
is the difficulty of getting my children into the swim
lessons. I have tried the drop off method of registering
on the very day the booklet comes in the CDT and for the
last 4 sessions at least, my child has been on the waiting
|We recently moved here and
have used your Park Forest pool. Very well pleased with
maintenance and support people. It is very pleasing to
|We would still hope to get
|One thing that upset me this
year was, I'm not a swimmer myself, but my son is. But
I had to pay the admission fee just to bring him into family
swim. He had a season pass so he was there 2-3 times a
week, and then I would pay to come in just to watch. Whatever
happened to trust!
|This year, I tried to register
my 4 oldest children in swim programs before the pools
even opened. I ended up having to enroll them in three
different sessions because so many classes were full. If
classes are full before the pool even opens, there is a
shortage. It is very inconvenient to schedule classes.
For a family of 7, pool passes get expensive and classes
add up quickly. Maybe a family pass would be nice.
|There should be a reduced "Daily
Admission" fee for children. Grandparents who are
visiting and just want to watch should not be charged admission.
FYI, We were at an incredible pool facility in Newton,
Iowa. Big slides, fountains, etc. and lots of fun. The
admission there was $2.75.
|I believe a new facility
(pool or park) would be great, but not in Park Forest.
It would better serve the community if you place it near
Fairbrook (or possibly near Spring Creek).
|I enjoy your facility. I
would like to see morning swims added. I would like some
aesthetic fencing from the parking lot at Welch Pool. I
would like a homey, kid-friendly atmosphere in dressing
room and at the kid pool. We rarely use your pool in the
early afternoon due to overcrowding. I have small children
and experiencing the pool with so many pre-teen kids playing
is difficult. I prefer the atmosphere at Millheim's community
pool. It seems more family-friendly. They have Disney character
curtains in the changing stalls and a playhouse at the
kid pool and less people. At least one morning option preferred.
|I think a large indoor/outdoor
pool facility would be great for this area. Gook luck.
|Lockers would be necessary
for any covered or indoor facility for year-round use.
|Whatever you do, keep it
simple. State College has this idea that everything new
has to be grandiose, Taj Mahal level. Swimming pools are
|Currently, I use the university's
facilities; however, when our family expands we plan on
using the community's facilities.
|Sorry this survey is late
for you. I just received the survey as it had to be forwarded
and that takes a minimum of a week. This would make the
most sense for year round use, but perhaps this could be
completed through private funds (YMCA).
|We have a very high tax base
and plenty of money as a community. These pools should
be free to anyone 16 and under.
|The idea of building an additional
outdoor pool with tax dollars is foolish considering the
hours and price at Penn State's outdoor pool. You don't
need to be affiliated with PSU to use these facilities
during the summer. Work on coming up with an indoor solution
|1. We like the new lap swim
time on the weekends (11AM). 2. Could you add one or two
evening adult (16+) lap swim times after the pool closes
at 7:30? 3. Could you schedule evening water aerobics classes
after 7:30? For Welch Pool
|We do not use the public
pools and therefore did not answer questions 11-14. CRPR
policy and/or pricing has nothing to do with our choice
of leisure activities.
|We used the pools when the
boys were small, mostly swimming lessons, and the services
and fees were fine. Now we belong to a private club which
is much costlier but very uncrowded and we prefer it as
well as natural waters such as Black Moshannon, Shaver's
|General comment: I live in
Halfmoon Twp. I know we don't belong to CRPR. But it's
really frustrating that our school taxes are just as high
as the rest of the Centre Region and none of the schools'
recreation facilities are in this township. Has everyone
on the school board forgotten about us?
|The new indoor/outdoor pool
should have a wave machine and slide.
|There really needs to be
older lifeguards on that are more in tune with what is
going on around the pool, and if the workers are to be
working then they need to be at the waterslide for the
kids no matter how many or little people there are at the
|Although I joined this summer,
I have not attended any pool to date. It is more convenient
for my daughter and I to swim in the morning.
|I do not use any of the swimming
facilities in Centre Region. I would be interested in enhancing
the outdoor pools as I think every person, children especially,
should know how to swim.
|Good luck in getting people
to first, support a new facility, then in getting the land,
and thirdly, in getting them to pay the necessary fees.
Viva the new library, and the new pool! Can the Centre
Region cooperate to have "world-class"reading
and swimming? I don't think so, if the past events are
any indication. Sorry to be such a pessimist but given
the wealth here, it's sad to see how little we have for
public recreation compared to other areas. Too many greedy
developers who have no future vision, I guess.
|More information is needed
on how local taxes are used in this regard. Are the pools
funded entirely by admission prices?
|Having had a child, now graduated,
who swam competitively, I understand the need for facilities
for these gifted children in our community. Getting her
to the Nat by 6am every morning for swim time was difficult
and there was never enough practice time for these kids
which hurt them in the state meets. The other item that
is obvious is that the population of this region has grown
without corresponding facilities. While it is my opinion
that the community at large should provide some support
for this the bulk of the financial burden should be borne
by the users.
|Do not swim in a pool, only
in a lake or ocean. Please note that I feel any new pool
should not be run by government. They will make a mess
|I do not use any of the facilities
but I am pleased they are offered for the youth of this
|Both children have participated
as competition swimmers. Since PSU has denied the YMCA's
access to their pools, a new year-round facility really
is required. We have four winter competition programs competing
for inadequate winter/indoor pool facilities.
|Cleaner pool, bathroom, more
picnic tables. Activities like slides, hoops
|A well-constructed instrument
that was very easy to answer. Use some money from the fee
in lieu of from new developments. A pool needs to be built
out toward Boalsburg.
|Yes, I do go swimming but
am willing to pay for this service to a private enterprise.
I think this expense should be left to private enterprises
and not be a burden to the taxpayer. Let the people who
want these aquatic needs pay for them.
|I do not use any public facility.
I am handicapped and the Days Inn meets all my swimming
needs - management and water temperature. Have been going
there for years and do not intend to change.
|This is the first time in
2 years to hear about the Park Forest of Welch swimming
pools. Please send me info about their locations and fees
and hours of operation. Waterpark is of utmost importance
and will help the economy of Centre Region.
|Even though we have not participated,
I think public-supported pools for our youth and adults
are very important and I would hope that good programs
can continue in this area. Yes, our tax dollars should
support such programs. Admissions to such facilities should
be as cheap as possible so that pool users should not feel
they can't use the pool because of high financial admission
|Adults, children, teens and
college students have totally incompatible needs as far
as swimming is concerned. Adults want to swim laps or float
about. Young kids need some space where they can walk around
in shallow water or learn to swim. Teens want to indulge
in every possible form of splashing, throwing , dunking
horseplay without regard for young children or adults and
college students seems to cut across all of the above.
For these reasons we have preferred to take family memberships
in several hotel pools where we can choose the best hours
for us, where we can take our grandchildren and where we
can swim, teach our grandchildren to swim, use a hot tub
and never feel like sardines in a can. And this pleasant
experience of actually being able to enjoy a swimming pool
costs about, or less than 1/10 of the lowest price that
you suggest in your list of options. Public swimming pools
seem best suited for young kids and teens not for adults.
It was that way 25-30 years ago when our kids were young
and we swam at Park Forest; it is no different today. Overall,
I give the CRPR the highest rating for all of the program
sit operates and I participate regularly in the adult volleyball
program, however, although I support the efforts of CRPR
in general, I have no strong opinions about the aquatics
program because our family has not used it for 30 years
and we are not likely to use it in the future.
|I do not ever use any of
the pools. But I think it's fine for the children.
|I support the pools, but
as a single adult I don't tend to use them as much.
|I think an indoor facility
is long overdue and much needed - health clubs are too
costly and unavailable to many. HS Nat is only available
in Fri. pm's, and PSU Nat only at selected times. Parking
should be a factor in location. In the Centre Region, not
many people could afford to nor would spend more than $4
/person/child/session. My opinion of course, I wouldn't.
|There is a need in this community
for more aquatics programs for older adults. Times need
set aside for this age group as well as for them to bring
young grandchildren. Open swimming has too much rough,
aggressive activity from older children and young adults.
More security will also be needed. Older adult homeowners
are supporting CRPR through taxes and little opportunity
for outside recreation especially swimming. Cost isn't
a factor. Availability and quality is.
|I personally use the pool
for lap swimming and exercise. But I'm interested in aquatics
for young children. I think it is very important for children
to learn and be exposed to aquatics at a young age. I don't
have any experience with the area pools, except the Nat,
they always look too crowded.
|I do not use the pools. If
there is at some time a good exercise program for seniors
that is in warm water I might. It would need to be very
reasonable in price.
|I would only use the public
pool for swimming lessons since we have a pool at home.
However, a waterpark would be nice to have available.
|I do feel those who use the
pools should pay for them.
|The only way I would support
a new pool, is if it would be affordable for all. There
are too many people living in this area making minimum
wage and cannot afford the current charges. Everybody isn't
employed by the university, so why should everybody support
a public pool to appease them?
|If you make the prices any
higher I think it will eliminate a lot of the lower income
families from being able to afford to come to the pool.
|While I believe facility
users should pay fees, I don't personally feel I would
spend much more that $3/person for an average swimming
outing. I would pay more for a water park and more for
swimming lessons than is currently charged. I would be
in favor of tax support and special fund raising to raise
funds for new facilities with maintenance costs covered
by user fees.
|I would love to have my family
use public pools, but the cost for each person is too much.
I would love to see a family price limit. Thank you.